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Debates Day 3 - Thursday 21 October 1993



Debates Day 3 - Thursday 21 October 1993

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Parliamentary Record 21


Debates for 6th Assembly 1990 - 1994; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 6th Assembly 1990 - 1994




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DEBATES - Thursday 21 October 1993 out, he tries to counter it by shouting down anyone giving information that shows that he has been untruthful. Mr Bailey: What you do is shout and refuse to talk about anything at all. Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The Minister for Transport and Works has the floor. Mr MANZIE: The member for Wanguri is fashioning himself after the member for Millner. The member for Millner was caught trying to hoodwink people with a document. He was wrong, and he had to admit it. He does not like that. Let us have a look at this fixed price process. The Minister for Education and Training has tabled documents that indicated the increase in the price. Off the top of my head, I believe that he has twice tabled documents that relate to this. I believe one related to an amount of $138m. Mr Finch: $l40m-odd. Mr MANZIE: One showed that the price had risen to $l40m-odd. Later on, he tabled another document that indicated that the price had reached an estimated $158m. If that is trying to hide the fact that there has been an increase or states that the price is f ixed in dollar terms, I do not know what the member for Millner is going on about ... Mr Parish: That is not what you said when the contract was signed. Mr MANZIE: He says that the government has said repeatedly that it is a fixed price contract but that, lo and behold, I stood up a couple of weeks ago and said that it was not fixed in dollar terms. That statement was patently untruthful. It was a lie, and that lie can be demonstrated by documents that have been tabled in this Assembly and by statements that have been made in this Chamber. Why would the member for Millner want to tell a big fib? Because he thought that he would get away with it! However, he had done so little homework on it that he had not bothered to read the Parliamentary Record and he had not bothered to look at the tabled documents. If he intended to tell a fib, one would think that he would do a little research first. However, he tells fibs so regularly that he does not even bother to check whether the facts contradict what he says. Let us get on to the matter of the cost. He has made a big deal of this morning. He said that the original Parliament House was to cost $46.4m and we said that it would cost $56m. The member conveniently omitted a number of small issues. He omitted the head contract fees, the consultants' fees, the project manager's fees and the site-work fees. When all of those are added, the figure is $56.4111. This is a further example of the member for Millner trying deliberately to distort facts to suit his own purpose. However, he has forgotten once again that these matters have been documented. I believe that this debate is even more important because both the member for Millner and the member for Wanguri are on the Public Accounts Committee. Recently, it met to take evidence, the transcript of which was released publicly. I believe that it is important for the Parliamentary Record ... Mr Bailey: We have been trying to arrange a follow-up meeting to enable the facts to be ascertained. 10 147

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