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Debates Day 5 - 31 October 2018



Debates Day 5 - 31 October 2018

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DEBATES Wednesday 31 October 2018 4781 There was also a submission from ISACNT, the Industry Skills Advisory Council. Maybe the minister can tell me more, because I do not know much about this. They supported what the government was doing. I do not know who they are? Is it a private body, which would therefore like to stay Mr Kirby: They are the experts. Mr WOOD: They may be the experts, but they are asking to get rid of the commission. Is there a conflict of interest in their wanting to get rid of something? Theirs is an advisory council, the other one was the Northern Territory Training Commission. Ms Uibo: They have the industry experts and the private industry experts, who then provide advice to government. Mr WOOD: Okay. Hopefully, you can tell me in your answer. The other group we got rid of was also to provide advice. I am looking at this from an outsiders point of view. One group is saying, We are happy for you to get rid of that lot. Ms Uibo: Yes. Mr WOOD: Okay. Maybe you could explain who is on the Industry Skills Advisory Council. They might be perfectly good peopleI am not knocking thembut in their submission they say that they are committed to supporting workforce development across the Northern Territory: ISACNT ensure continual and ongoing consultation and communication with local Northern Territory businesses, registered training organisations, schools, employees and Northern Territory Government representing the views of NT industry, their skills and training needs and demands. I would have thought the Northern Territory Training Commission did the same sort of thing. I am asking how those two fit into the discussion today. I do not want to see duplication; you only need one advisory group. I imagine that advisory group would have representatives from industries all over the Northern Territory, whether they are pastoral, training in child welfare, manufacturing, gasall sorts of things. That is where I would expect those sorts of bodies to have representation. I appreciate the minister giving us a good rundown on the importance of training. I have no doubt about that. My only concern was I needed to hear why this commission was being scrapped from other speakers. I only have a three-quarter page document from the Workforce Training minister and I got 40 minutes from the other minister, which did not deal with the issues we are trying to discuss today. I want to hear a little more in depth about how the Department of Trade, Business and Innovation process which, through agent initiatives, has greater flexibility to respond to economic employment conditions; is without legislative restrictions; and has the ability to report directly to the minister instead of an intermediary statutory bodyis a better process than having a commission. To be fair, the commission never got a chance to operate. Therefore, it is very hard to judge whether it could have done the job it was originally set up to. To wait two years to scrap it seems to be a very strange process. I do not know whether the people who are on this commissionAndrew Bruyn, Annette Gillanders, Peter Barclay, Greg Bicknell, Wayne Kraft, Neilia Ginnane, Pamela Jape, Stephen Schwer and Neil Hallagan Ms Uibo: Mr Bruyn retired in October 2016. Mr WOOD: Well, you can put that in your speech, minister. It would be nice. Perhaps you could say what they thought of it. They may have an opinion that was a good idea too. It was a very small second reading and a very large response from the previous minister, which did not go into depth on what this debate is about. I am not saying there was no good stuff in that speech, but it really got away from what this debate is about. I am not going to oppose this, by any means. Perhaps in your summing up, ministerit would be nice to have on record what you are doing after scrapping this one. Please show us how your process will be better than what was originally designed by the CLP. Mr COLLINS (Fong Lim): Madam Speaker, I rise in support of the Training and Skills Development Amendment Bill. While the bill may be somewhat dry and procedural in its contents, training and skills

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