The Supreme Court of Australia Transcript of Proceedings Between Peter Julian Hansen (Plaintiff) and Northern Land Council (Defendant) pages 52-117
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provide them with commercial prospects. In other words, to do the bus run from Katherine township to the mine site and enter into contracts to supply Zapperpan with goods and services. And what advice did you give him with that in mind?---Well, this was to have enormous ramificationsfor me - and is still doing so today. In 1990, my mother died and I was - - Mr Hansen, if I could just ask you to confine yourself please to the advice, if any, you gave to Mr Ah Kit - - - ?---Okay. - - - in relation to this matter?---I was a shareholder in Zapperpan. I knew, with great clarity, what an exciting prospect Mount Todd was. I had followed their progress extremely closely over a period of two years, so I knew with clarity - in a way that probably no-one. else in Australia knew. I knew that Zapperpan was very keen to go ahead with the deal. I knew that the Jawoyn were very keen to go ahead with the deal. I knew that the Commonwealth Government was keen and I knew that the Territory Government was keen. The crucial advice - Jack said, 'What do I do about this situation? I'm not getting anywhere with Terry Strap.' S o I said, 'Jack' - after reading the correspondence - I said, 'Jack, your position is incredibly strong. You.hold the whip hand because Zapperpan will not get finance from the bank to go ahead with development of the mine unless they get secured title to the land. So I said, 'Jack, what you've got to do is read the Riot Act to Terry Strap a n d s a y to him that it won't be going ahead unless you, the Jawoyn, get what you're after.' That was the gist of your advice?---Thats right. Thank you. Did you then continue on to Tennant Creek?---We did. And in Tennant Creek did you then have discussions with Mr Tichner's adviser in relation to the sum of $500,000 which was being sought?---We did - well, at least I did, with - - Just wait. You had discussions. Who was his senior adviser?- Murray Chapman. And what did you and Mr Chapman discuss?---We, over a period of several days, discussed the budget and, in fact, I carried it around in a file for two days clearly marked on it, 'budget' and I kept talking and talking and talking to him about the $500,000 which the director had requested me to get from the minister. And ultimately, did he indicate that he would advise the minister to accede to your request?---Yes, he did. 17/ld H a n s e n 72 P.J. H A N S E N X N 1 8 / 1 1 / 9 8