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The Supreme Court of Australia Transcript of Proceedings Between Peter Julian Hansen (Plaintiff) and Northern Land Council (Defendant) pages 52-117



The Supreme Court of Australia Transcript of Proceedings Between Peter Julian Hansen (Plaintiff) and Northern Land Council (Defendant) pages 52-117

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And late on that afternoon of 21 January 93, did you and Mr Dodson have a conversation as you were getting into Mr Dodson's vehicle?---Yes, what took place was, the meeting had finally finished, it was just before 6 o clock. We were getting into his vehicle, and I said, 'Its most important that we talk to the press and put this agreement because its been changed, it's no longer just freehold, it's now enhanced freehold'title.' My job is to be - as my duty statement says, to be pro-active with the media, to manage how information is put out, to anticipate problems - so, as we're getting into, the car, I said, 'It's most important that we teil the media' and he responded by saying, 'Right, let's go.' Now, why did you think it was important to convey the result of the meeting to the media?---'Cause Tony Haritos had told me on the Monday that there was an honest speculation going on within the Darwin media to the effect that now that the NLC was being involved in the Mount Todd agreement, the line being put by one particular journalist - and it seems like the rest were following him, this David Noson, he named - he said that, 'What you'll find is that the deal will fall apart because'now the NLC has been involved. It's been fine up to date becau_se it's been between the Jawoyn, Zapperpan, the Commonwealth and the Territory governments but now, now that the NLCs involved, you watch the deal fall apart.' So the purpose of the release to the media was to demonstrate that the NLC had been instrumental in negotiating a successful outcome?---Exactly. Did you and Mr Dodson then go to the Northern Land Council office? We did. Was that the Northern Land Council office in Katherine? ---That's right. Or in Darwin?---In'Katherine. And what happened when you arrived at the office in Katherine?---Each of us went to a telephone and made a call. I rang Gordon Feeney at AAP and had a very short conversation with him. I said, 'Gordon, I m ringing to let you know that, the agreement has been overwhelming endorsed by the Jawoyn and it'll be going ahead.' So, he said, Well, can you give me any details? and I said, No, I've got to ring the ABC and try to catch them before their 6 o'clock news started. And did that conclude your discussion with Mr Feeney?---It did. Did you and Mr Dodson then have a discussion?---He Was finishing his telephone call and it became clear that he was talking to his wife. He was saying to her that he expected 37/ld Hansen 91 P.J. HANSEN XN 18/11/98