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SCUAAC Briefing 9 February 1994 Mr Steve Gelding District Manager representing the Department of Health and Community Services



SCUAAC Briefing 9 February 1994 Mr Steve Gelding District Manager representing the Department of Health and Community Services

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ALCOHOL ABUSE COMMITTEE - Wednesday 9 February 1994 KATHERINE MEETING of money and, provided they spend it properly, they should be allowed to run their own programs. You have made quite a few references to the fact that it is hard to evaluate these programs. Should we be looking at getting on with the job rather than having processes in place to evaluate all these things? I know we want to see some results and work out what we are doing, but where should we be placing the emphasis? Mr GELDING: Obviously, I . have a role in the evaluation process, but I do not have an academic background in relation to alcohol. Our colleagues such as Shirley are the ones who are able to compare studies in the states and they can come up with very little. I will go to them and say: 'How effective is it? What is going on'? They have great difficulty in telling me. I do not want to emphasise the evaluation again, but it is very important for us. I am actually accountable for this money. Mr ORTMANN: You are the accountable officer. Mr GELDING: This is not a heavy duty thing. We are simply going to say that we need to look at what we are doing, whether we need to get the players together for a planning exercise and how we fill any gaps. There is whole question of the Aboriginal communities and how we meet the needs of the rehabilitation side? Is Rock Hole the most effective? They are saying they want a million dollar establishment with fully residential facilities and that this is inadequate. This is the sort of thing. I say: 'Tell me what you have done so far. What have you actually achieved? How many people have you had through?' They can just indicate that they have had so and so and done this and this. You can always get somebody to put their hand up and say that they are off the grog because they helped them, and I believe that is true. It does happen. However, it does not solve the other problems of what we are doing about the public drunkenness. What about all the ringers who come in once the mustering has finished. They run amok. Mr ORTMANN: .There is also a hard core who are using these same facilities over and over and blowing the figures all out of proportion. Mr GELDING: We have also to evaluate the potential effect with this number of programs. With the Living with Alcohol Trust Account, there is a process that we go through in conjunction with the program area. We evaluate the proposals and some of them get quite fanciful. 'We need $400 000 at such and such to run such and such' . We are talking enormous sums of money and I have certainly more than just a duty in that regard. It is important to sit back for awhile and - I do not want to pick on KADA, but that is the organisation in this town that has the high public profile. They would say to me that they do not have a very high profile at all and that a lot of people do not know what they are about. I have said, 'Well whose fault is that?' They have the money. You are aware of 5