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Debates Day 3 - Thursday 21 October 1993



Debates Day 3 - Thursday 21 October 1993

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Parliamentary Record 21


Debates for 6th Assembly 1990 - 1994; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 6th Assembly 1990 - 1994




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DEBATES - Thursday 21 October 1993 Mr MANZIE: Trying to drown out what I am saying by calling out at the top of your voice will not prevent these facts being made public. Mr Bailey: Isn't it true that we have tried at the last 3 meetings to have an open hearing held on State Square? Members interjecting. Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Mr MANZIE: Quite a fuss has been made about the ... Members interjecting. Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The Minister for Transport and Works is trying to make a point. Mr MANZIE: The member for Millner has made an issue of the cost of Parliament House. He has tried desperately to say that somehow or other there is something wrong with the costs. He says they have been fudged, that something is not right with them and that the price has grown out of all proportion. He made an issue of the escalation in costs which is based on inflation and fluctuations in the building price index. That is not made up. It is factual. He can say that trees have blue leaves for as long as he likes, but the fact is that trees have green leaves and the fact is that there is an escalation in costs for any building over time. Those fluctuations are based on the building price index which is an industry standard. He cannot get away from that because it is factual. There has been an escalation of $21.4m in the costs as a result of the increases that are based on the building price index. Try as he may, the member for Millner cannot get around that fact. Let us have a look at some other areas where there have been price rises. There is the inclusion of the State Reference Library, accommodation for executive government and other bits and pieces, all of which have added a further $l8.4m. Mr Parish: Yes, and your predecessor said it was $llm in April this year. How many figures do you want to make up? Mr MANZIE: He is shouting again, Mr Deputy Speaker. You will recall what I said about him shouting. He knows that what he said was a lie. The the evidence is there to indicate that he knows that what he said was a lie ... Mr Parish: You have given so many different figures ... Mr MANZIE: I will get around to that. I will produce the evidence. Mr BAILEY: A point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker! We have moved a censure motion against the minister. No censure motion has been moved against the member for Millner at this time and therefore, if the minister says that the member for Millner has told a lie, there is a point of order. We have already withdrawn statements of that kind that referred to any member other than the current Minister for Transport and Works. When the member for Millner referred to other ministers in that way, he withdrew the reference when he was requested to do so. 10 148

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