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Debates Day 4 - Tuesday 20 August 2002



Debates Day 4 - Tuesday 20 August 2002

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Parliamentary Record 6


Debates for 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005




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DEBATES - Tuesday 20 August 2002 I welcome any members of government getting in there and asking questions about theh electorate or what we are doing in schools and education, and I hope they do, because it is theh job. M r KIELY: A point of order, Madam Speaker! Members inteijecting. Madam SPEAKER: Order! The member for Sanderson. M r KIELY: Madam Speaker, the member for Drysdale called the Leader of Government Business a liar. I ask that he withdraw that comment. Many times. M r DUNHAM: Madam Speaker ... Madam SPEAKER: I dont want to debate this. If you called the Leader of Government Business that, then you should withdraw. M r DUNHAM: I mentioned that one of his untrue comments was a lie, Madam Speaker. M r KIELY: A point of order, Madam Speaker. That is not what he said. He called him a liar, straight up. Madam SPEAKER: Well, I am afraid I did not hear it at the time. If you did, you should withdraw it. M r DUNHAM: I withdraw i t ... Madam SPEAKER: You know the rules. Do not argue. You know the rules. M r DUNHAM: Would you like me to stop there, Madam Speaker? Madam SPEAKER: Just withdraw. M r DUNHAM: I did! Madam SPEAKER: I was distracted at the time. M r STIRLING: Madam Speaker, I have appreciated the cooperation in large measure from the Deputy Leader of the Opposition as we have advanced this through. The government has given considerable ground. But there is always another ask and it is a bit like being across the negotiating table where, you know, how far is far enough or how far is too far because it seemed that no matter what I was prepared and the government may have been prepared to give ground on, it simply seemed to be in the end, to me, a process that demanded to start at a certain time but you did not stop. You simply did not stop. It was there to roll on regardless and eat up the hours. Mr Dunham: You kept changing the rules. M r STIRLING: We did not keep changing the rules. Mr Dunham: Tell us about government owned corporations. Mr STIRLING: We reviewed what was being put to us by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, take it back, discuss it with my colleagues and back with an answer. But it just seemed to me that it didnt matter how far I was prepared to make concessions and give it a break and get the support of my colleagues because there was always another ask. We arrive at this situation of no members constrained by time in asking questions. Well, the Committee of the Whole in here had five minutes, always has had five minutes as your limit in asking a question. Now, how much longer would you need than five minutes to ask a question? In any case, there is no time limit on asking the questions. It just says: Questions and explanations should be brief, avoid irrelevance and tedious repetition. That probably well gets us there. The Chairman of the Estimates Committee who has to chah this through should probably bear in mind that the former Standing Order in relation to that was five minutes. I thought that was ample. M r Reed: But repetitive, five minutes repeating. M r STIRLING: You had five minutes. The person asking the question gets five minutes to background theh question, put it into context and ask the question. Thats what was under the Committee of the Whole in here. M r Reed: Repeating, though. Not just one five minutes. M r STIRLING: Of course not. Five minutes per question. Your amendment here is saying no member is constrained by time limits in asking questions. I mean... Mr Reed: Okay. Mr STIRLING: You know, the order as it stands, and I support this, says: 2186

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