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Debates Day 4 - Tuesday 20 August 2002



Debates Day 4 - Tuesday 20 August 2002

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Parliamentary Record 6


Debates for 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005




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DEBATES - Tuesday 20 August 2002 We would like this amendment to get up, and we think if the government is interested in making sure that theh good reputation, such as it is, is intact, and that these many millions of dollars are able to be adequately addressed, it should put it into the province of the Estimates Committee. When we see what else will replace that, show us that, lets have a look at that and we will debate it in here. But in the absence of anything else, we cannot - we cannot in the duty that we have here - sign off to having such a big issue of government expenditure, barleys, out of bounds. That cannot happen. I will give notice that we do not aheady believe your Community Service Obligation figures. We will be talking about the undergrounding of power because it would appear that it has very little to do with power, and we will be talking about the yield of profit that is coming back to government because it would seem that on the face of it, the rise of some 7.5% could well have been met within profit margins and they are issues the government should have seen as options that were available to it, particularly for some of the larger commercial enterprises around town. The tourism minister proudly pronounced how there was some half a million dollars to bring an influx of overseas tourists in here. What he didnt tell us was that the very facilities they would be housed in would be paying an extra million bucks in water and sewerage. So the wonderful, wonderful pronouncement that those sitting in places like Rydges and places like that: Gee! Paul has given us half a million bucks so that we can get more tourists in here, but to get that half a million were going to have to spend another million bucks on the great luxury of having water and sewerage in our facilities. We think they are questions that should be asked, Mr Acting Deputy Speaker. We think there will be people interested in the answers, and we do not believe that they fall in the province of commercial- in-confidence. We do not believe that they are out of bounds in terms of the pubhc view, and we will be absolutely aghast if, in the absence of any other device to look at this area of expenditure, the government does not support this amendment that has been proposed to rectify the backflip of last week Ms CARTER (Port Darwin): Mr Acting Deputy Speaker, I rise tonight in support of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Treasurers amendment addressing time limits and the agencies about which questions can be asked. I know that over the last few days the Labor Party and the Labor government have been celebrating theh fhst 12 months in power and good luck to them; I am sure we will be doing it when we are back in government. Peoples expectations, however, were raised greatly during the election campaign by the Labor Party with regard to, for example, open and accountable government. I myself was somewhat sceptical and my scepticism has bome fruit because the reality is that once you get into government, you find the difficulties and the ideas of being open and accountable and telling everybody and being all encompassing - suddenly it is like: Oh gee! That might get us into a bit of strife there. Oh, dear. Whoops. Well we might just constrain some of those thoughts a little bit. Certainly during the last few weeks as the CLP opposition, we have all been waiting on tender hooks wondering how this estimates process is going to come about. I know that our deputy leader has been constantly in contact with your Deputy Chief Minister in an effort to try and find out the details of how the estimates is going to present itself. Mr Stirling: Not an effort to find out the details at all. It was a process of negotiation, you clown. Ms CARTER: This demonstrates to me the amount of backwards and forwards ... Dr LIM: A point of order, Mr Acting Deputy Speaker! I think the Deputy Chief Minister should withdraw the comment he made of the member. M r STIRLING: The clown was in reference to a person making a statement about which they had no knowledge, Mr Acting Deputy Speaker, and it is entirely appropriate. Dr LIM: I think the term is unparliamentary ... Mr ACTING DEPUTY SPEAKER: Member for Greatorex, are you talking to the point of order? Dr LIM: Speaking to the point of order, I believe that the term that the ... Mr ACTING DEPUTY SPEAKER: What Standing Order are you referring to, member for Greatorex? Dr LIM: Speaking to point or order, Mr Acting Deputy Speaker, I believe that the Deputy Chief Minister is using unparliamentary language. Mr ACTING DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will seek advice on that one, member for Greatorex. Deputy Chief Minister, in the interest of the context in which that comment was made, I would ask you to withdraw it, please. 2198

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