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Debates Day 3 - Thursday 19 June 2003



Debates Day 3 - Thursday 19 June 2003

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Parliamentary Record 13


Debates for 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005




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DEBATES Thursday 19 June 2003 4442 two CEOs did not leave because of these matters. They knew it, yet they went ahead and put this statement in their report. Let me get to point 8: The unprecedented action of a PAC member, the member for Sanderson, obtaining government sponsored legal advice to pursue another member of parliament. I have here advice marked Confidential from De Silva Hebron, Barristers and Solicitors, a worthy firm. This is the advice sought: You instructed That is, I: instructed that there is a current sitting of the Public Accounts Committee with respect to particular budget data for the year 2001-02. Of particular interest to the Public Accounts Committee is the apparent artificial reduction in the 2000-01 budget carried out for the purpose of presenting a false increase in the 2001-02 budget figures for certain government departments. In particular, you The member for Sanderson: seek advice as to what constitutes malfeasance in circumstances where (a) the minister has directed a public servant to alter the figures; or (b) the public servant has acted without specific direction from the minister and of his own volition to alter the figures. Where does it say in there that I was obtaining sponsored legal advice to pursue another member of parliament? Mr Dunham: You were. Mr KIELY: Where does it say it in there? Mr Dunham: The PAC did not, mate. Mr KIELY: If I understand the member for Drysdale correctly, he is saying that the people who authored this document are lying, because Mr Dunham: I am saying that is not from the PAC, it is from you. Mr KIELY: clearly, it is not what you think. Now, Madam Speaker, this whole report was tabled in the parliament Mr Dunham: Where was it tabled? Mr KIELY: following the Estimates Committee, when I remember they gave a rigorous grilling of you and your CEO. Mr Dunham: You did not bring it to the PAC? Mr KIELY: Madam Speaker, this report was always sitting up with the secretary, always sitting there. This report was about me getting information to find out what constituted malfeasance - right? and nothing else, so that I had a good idea about what I was looking for, because I did not understand what this was. This was well before 26 November 2002. They, the opposition, and members of the parliament, all had access. Everyone has had access to this document. This was actually provided to members of the PAC. Mr Dunham: When? Mr KIELY: This was actually provided to members, well before 26 November 2002. Therefore, Madam Speaker, I say to you, that they knowingly and willingly put a falsehood in this statement. They knowingly and willingly put in a lie, because it is all there. Mr DUNHAM: A point of order, Madam Speaker! Under standing orders, he cannot allege that a lie is in this parliamentary document, which is carrying the crest of the parliament of the Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory, unless he does so by way of substantive motion. Mr KIELY: I withdraw it, Madam Speaker. I withdraw it unreservedly. The dissenting report is the biggest crock that I have ever seen. I expect to see it more in the future. Motion agreed to; paper noted. TABLED PAPER Standing Orders Committee - Second Report of Ninth Assembly, June 2003 Mr HENDERSON (Leader of Government Business): Madam Speaker, I table the second report of the Standing Orders Committee for the 9th Assembly, which is a progress report on the committees review of the draft Members Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards and proposed amendments to the Legislative Assembly (Register of Members Interests) Act. The report also contains recommendations involving a range of issues dealt with by the committee during the last 12 months.

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