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Debates Day 2 - Wednesday 27 November 2002



Debates Day 2 - Wednesday 27 November 2002

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Parliamentary Record 9


Debates for 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005




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DEBATES - Wednesday 27 November 2002 What does that tell you? Election - yes, we will promise it in the election. Members inteijecting. Dr BURNS: A point of order, Madam Speaker! I believe the member is pre-empting debate. Madam SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr BALDWIN: Speaking to the point of order, Madam Speaker, this is what I mean. Madam SPEAKER:, I have already ruled. Mr BALDWIN: They are frightened to tackle this issue! Members inteijecting. Mr BALDWIN: Okay, okay. Let us talk about an EPA and the staged introduction. I have no problem with a staged introduction of an EPA if the committee so recommends, if the parliament decides, but all that tells you is there is nobody who has a watching brief in the meantime on all things environment and sustainable development. All I am saying is give this committee some latitude to have the watching brief until such time as this mob want to introduce their EPA. That is all I am asking, and if you were serious, sitting on the other side, you particularly and the former minister and the new minister, they would agree to this. It is no different from the PAC, no different whatsoever. Dr Burns: I will have my say. Mr BALDWIN: Yes, you will have your say. So I think we are off to a good start. We will look at the cane toads because I know this is not going to get up. I hope the member for Nelson supports me in this small amendment. It probably wont get up on the government numbers. Mr Stirling: Was that the way your Environment Committee worked, was it, Tim? It had self-referencing? Mr BALDWIN: This is the way the PAC works! Whats wrong with it? Picking up on the inteijection from the member for Nhulunbuy, who is the biggest boxhead in this place, if he was serious, if he wanted to go out there and talk to the environmental groups and say, We have done the best possible thing we can do to make sure there is a watching brief on the environment, on heritage issues, on sustainable development issues, we have given ... Mr Henderson: Like you did? Mr BALDWIN: You are in government now! You make the decisions. You get out there an justify yourself. You cannot. You like to go out there with your hand on your heart and say, Were green. Love us. But you cannot bring yourself to do the gutsy stuff. That is your problem. We will go along with it, but, boy, it is going to be a great ride. You should support this and if you were at least sincere in what you are proposing, you would certainly support this as well. Mr WOOD (Nelson): Madam Speaker, I would like to support the establishment of an Environment and Sustainable Development Sessional Committee. I think it is an important Committee, but I should make it clear that just because I think it is a great idea does not mean I agree with everything the government has just said. Ms Lawrie: We dont expect you to. Mr WOOD: No. Madam SPEAKER: Member for Karama, order! I have spoken to you before. Mr WOOD: I have it on record that I do have some strong concerns about the development of the Northern Territory, especially from an environmental and sustainable development point of view. The member for Daly knows about some of the issues I have raised because he was the minister for planning, and those issues that I have raised strongly with him I would also raise strongly with the government. I notice the Minister for the Environment mentioned that the economy should not be compromised. I think the word economy has to be balanced. One has to look at the economy not just from one particular point of view. For sure, mining is a major part of the economy in the Northern Territory, and so is tourism, which is also the ministers portfolio. But if one is likely to destroy the other, then you should carefully look at the effects from both sides; you should not just say that, for instance, mining should go ahead and not take into account the possible effects that will have on tourism. Mining is not all good in the Northern Territory. I am not referring to the mineral side of mining. I am talking about more the extractive side of mining. While extractive industries have certainly cleaned up there act - and I talk about extractive industries because the area I come from is one of the main areas for extractive industries in the Northern Territory; it is the area that builds Darwin and Palmerston. There have been times, and there still are times, where the environmental track record for 3043

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