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Debates Day 2 - Wednesday 27 November 2002

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Debates Day 2 - Wednesday 27 November 2002

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Parliamentary Record 9

Collection

Debates for 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 9th Assembly 2001 - 2005

Date

2002-11-27

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Made available by the Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory

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English

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Debates

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Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory

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Darwin

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Attribution International 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)

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Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory

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https://hdl.handle.net/10070/278488

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https://hdl.handle.net/10070/421010

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DEBATES - Wednesday 27 November 2002 Mr Ah Kit: It was foreshadowed. Mr Baldwin: No, I moved it. Mr ELFERINK: I would like some guidance as to if the minister is actually supporting the amendment or supporting the motion. If he is not, he should be speaking to the amendment. Madam SPEAKER: Just be mindful of the fact that you would be speaking as you just have done to the motion and the amendment. You cannot speak again. Mr ELFERINK: Madam Speaker, I made it quite clear at the outset when I made my comments that I was speaking to the amendment and I believe the amendment is currently the item being debated, not the motion. Madam SPEAKER: Well, you may speak to the motion and the amendment at this stage but you cannot speak again. Dr LIM: Well, may I ask the question, Madam Speaker... Mr Stirling: They are dissenting, Madam Speaker. Mr ELFERINK: Madam Speaker, I would seek some advice. Madam SPEAKER: As I said, after the amendment has been moved, you are speaking to the motion and the amendment. You can only speak again by leave after the amendment was moved. At the moment, you have spoken, and you cannot speak again, except by leave. The minister on his feet now can speak to the motion and the amendment. The minister has the floor. Mr ELFERINK: Okay. Dont bother. That is the attitude and that is the problem. Madam SPEAKER: You have already spoken. Mr HENDERSON: Madam Speaker, if the member for Macdonnell would let me get past my first sentence, I would have clarified the matters to which I will be referring, and they are the motion and the amendment, and to signal to the opposition that we will not be supporting the amendment moved. I will now address my comments to the reasoning for that. The member for Daly - it must have been his leadership speech in the run up. It must be a contest between the member for Blain and the member for Daly. This is the first time that we have seen a bit of animation and a bit of passion from the member for Daly. It is good to see, member for Daly, it is good to see a bit of passion. Obviously it is the environmental issues that really arouse your passions. It is good to see. Not only did he speak with passion, he spoke with a great deal of hypocrisy given that he was a minister in the previous government in this place and, as a minister supported the terms of reference for previous environment committees that were part of this parliamentary process. He is there with his heart on his sleeve, proposing the amendment which is for the greater good of the people of the Northern Territory. It is amazing, this new level of democracy that they purport to support, when they had 27 years to establish it themselves. Let us just remind honourable members, because we have quite a few on our side of the House, in what were the terms of reference of the previous environmental committee that was established on 27 June 1994, and then re-established on 26 November 1997, with exactly the same terms of reference. Let us look at these wide and extensive terms of reference that the previous parliamentary committee had to work to, and I quote: Terms o f reference: (1) the committee shall be empowered unless otherwise ordered, to inquire into, and from time to time report upon and make recommendations on: (a) all matters relating to uranium mining and processing activities and their effects on the environment within the Alligator River region; and (b) any matter relating to mining and/or the environment within the Northern Territory which is referred to it by: (i) the relevant minister; or (ii) resolution o f the Legislative Assembly. Not recommendations on matters including those. They are exactly the same. Now lets look at our terms of reference here, and it is almost exactly the same: (3) The committee shall be empowered, unless otherwise ordered, to inquire into and from time to time report upon and make recommendations on matters 3046