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Parliamentary record : Part I debates (22 August 1985)



Parliamentary record : Part I debates (22 August 1985)


Debates for 4th Assembly 1983 - 1987; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 4th Assembly 1983 - 1987




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DEBATES - Thursday 22 August 1985 about the federal ALP's economic program is that it has not cut the deficit by nearly enough. The organisations that are recommending to the federal government are very closely aligned with the federal Liberal Party. Indeed, their research officers are former staff members of Liberal prime ministers and I am greatly concerned at the policies that may be applied to the Territory at some future date. Mr Deputy Speaker, one of the problems with privatisation is that people tend to regard this so-called panacea as applying across the board. That very subject was raised at a major seminar held recently in Darwin. Mr Pope made an excellent speech which was both witty and informative on the comparisons between ... Mr D.W. Collins: It was excellent because he did not agree with you. Mr B. COLLINS: Well, I often disagree with things people say but I still give them credit. I disagreed with a number of the things that were said but I thought that it was a thoughtful and excellent address. I also agreed with some of the things that Mr Pope had to say. I will repeat one of the points that he did make because it is worth repeating. It is a cheap shot to simply come up with this buzz word 'privatisation' and say that, of necessity, private enterprise will always do better than public enterprise. That snowball is starting to roll down the hill, as far as the federal coalition is concerned, in a way which worries me as a Territorian. I would like to obtain some statements from both the Northern Territory government and our federal member as to where they stand on it. We all know that the real cost of posting an airmail letter from Darwin to anywhere interstate in Australia is a great deal more than the price we pay for the stamp on it. That cost is subsidised by the enormous flow of mail between our major urban centres such as Melbourne and Sydney. We all know that the real costs of our trunk calls are greater than what we pay. As I said before, the detailed study that has been done on that indicates where the subsidies come from. If we simply go along this road of privatisation, particularly in the area of the public facilities that I have mentioned, it could lead to very severe consequences for the Northern Territory indeed because private enterprise needs to make a profit. It is the question of trying to supply these essential services across a nation as large as ours with as few people as we have that makes it essential that some enterprises at least are maintained for the benefit of the Northern Territory and all other isolated areas in Australia. Mr VALE (Braitling): Mr Deputy Speaker, this afternoon I would like to pay tribute to 2 former residents of central Australia who died in recent weeks. The first was Bennett Benjamin Webb who was born at Arltunga in 1913 and died in Alice Springs last month. Bennett, together with his father, Bennett Webb senior, and his uncle, Joe Webb, moved in the early 1920s to White Gums which was a few miles south of the present Mount Riddock homestead. Later, they shifted to the present Mount Riddock homestead and went into partnership with a fellow called Louis Schaber. After the death of Bennett's mother and father, who are buried on the property, and after World War II, the Webb brothers bought Schaber's share of the station. The 3 Webb brothers, Kilmet Northern Webb, who is still alive, Bennett Benjamin Webb and Quentin Ge6rge Webb, then proceeded to improve the 1246

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