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Parliamentary record : Part I debates (16 August 1990)



Parliamentary record : Part I debates (16 August 1990)


Debates for 5th Assembly 1987 - 1990; ParliamentNT; Parliamentary Record; 5th Assembly 1987 - 1990




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DEBATES - Thursday 16 August 1990 _____ ~ ______________ _ Mr EDE: That might explain it. If the committee submitted the report, it is not the responsibility of the chairman. I was digging through my fil es and I di scovered that, on 4 Ju ly, the person who is now the cha i rman of the committee came back from that famous trip that he made to Canada. As I recall, it was' his swan song in the position Mr Collins: What year was that? Mr EDE: That was July 1989. He was asked questions about what he found'there that could be of assistance in combating alcoholism etc. Basically, he did not say anything much although he did say that it would be in his report. I have not seen that report because it has not been presented to the Assembly. Possibly, he has delivered it to the committee and it will be attached as an appendix to the final report of the committee. When that is tab 1 ed, we wi 11 then fi na lly fi nd out what the then minister, now ex-minister, the member for Araluen, actually learnt in Canada. At that time, he,said also that he did not have a final costing of the trip but admitted that it certainly was not cheap. Apparently, the stop-over in Honolulu on the way back was fairly costly as were the expenses involved with the person with him having to go to a casino-conference which involved having a look at quite a few casinos. Hopefully, that report wi 11 be included with the final report of the committee. Mr Speaker, I was glad to note that the committee actually went and ta 1 ked to the Tangentyere Counei 1. However, I recollect that, on the day, the member forAra 1 uen was not there because , unfortunately, he was caught up in the south of France, at the time. It was the member for Karama who was in Canada at that stage. However, the member for MacDonnell, went to the meeting with the Tangentyere Council and, obviously, has been able to pass that wisdom on to the committee. Actually, the Tangentyere Council has an excellent record for the work that it has been doing over a long period in respect of this problem. I reca 11 the support we recei ved from Tangentyere. -. We ran an a 1 coho 1 rehabi 1 itation facil ity on Emily Gap Road. It gave us positive and pract i ca 1 support. It has great pract i ca 1 knowl edge in terms of comi ng to gri ps wi th the consequences of a 1 coho 1 as it affects its c li ente 1 e .i n the town camps and Aboriginal people generally in central Australia. Recent ly, it has come up with the concept of the soei a 1 behav i our project. I th i nk that thi sis one of those crit i ca 1 concepts wh i ch, if it operates, has a very real chance of havi ng more than just a wi ndow-dress i ng or an individual-case effect. Something that always frustrated me with our rehabi 1 itation service when I was with Congress was that you can put .an enormous amount of research into a very small number of peop 1 e. ',A successful alcohol rehabilitation process is one where, 12 months after the event, 15% of the people are not back on the grog . That is seen to be a successful program. To me, that was extremely frustrating. People would break their drinking patterns, but so many of them would move back into the situations that drove them to drink or in which they were drinking before they went to the centre and, despite thei r commi tment to stop dri nk i ng, would soon be back on the grog again. You are always dealing at an individual level there. This project attempts to look more broadly at society in central Australia to see if there are ways of changing the mind set. Peer group pressure is always seen as a problem in relation to alcohol and drunkenness. However, having acknowledged that it is peer group pressure 9943